. . . . . entries for 25.8.05 . . . . .
Any conversation that starts like this should not go well. It kinda did anyway. xD
Neal: islam is asinine
Me: Neal, let's not get started on this. xD
Neal: anyone who says they understand islam iand claiims its good at the core is asinine
Me: you've read the Qu'ran then?
Neal: only moderate believers who dont even follow islam correctly are not asinine
so in essence their not really islamic at all
yes i have
and its dumb as hell
well thats true if u read the bible 2 the bible and quaran are ridiclious
both advocate dehumnaization of women
both advocate
Me: the Bible moreso than the Qu'ran, I might add.
no
equally
Me: ah?
what about "all believers are equal in the eyes of Allah"?
Neal: yea exactly key rhetoric there " all believers of allah" but as far as their concerned all nom blievers can die and burn
Me: uh, not really.
Neal: uh yes really
Me: how much attention did you pay to the Islamic units in Hirota's class, Neal?
Neal: it has a section where it talks about out the bad fate of non believers
Me: it was the most progressive, prosperous region for women while Mohammed was alive.
Mohammed started it.
Neal: yea but its been peverted so badly
Me: what Mohammed did > what's written in the Qu'ran.
YES.
god damn it.
Neal: and despite mohammeds beleiefs
Me: it has been twisted so badly.
Neal: whats wriiten in the quaran is fucked up
read it
and ul see
it advocates women as objects to have kids with as does the bible
it says all non bleievers burn as does the bible
wanan hear neals theory
Any religion claiming to be better than another religion or amy thing non universal in a religion is stupid
Me: agreed.
but it is the nature of religion to claim it is supreme.
or, if not supreme, true.
and if one religion's facts clash with another, there is conflict.
Neal: yeah and then there both wrong unless one religion says mine is better and the other says all religions are equal
Me: i.e. universal unitarianism.
Neal: dont know what that means
but il tell u this much
Me: it's just what it sounds like.
ask Alex, he's an observer.
Neal: im an observer of a faith called hinduism which tells u that all religions are equal and even if u dont believe in god u can be fine as long as u act morally
Me: that's cool.
Neal: and buddhism is cool like that 2
Me: Westerners are incapable of not being competitive sons of bitches. xD
Neal: same with jainism
all eastern religions are usually good
Me: so we're all like ZOMG MY RELIGION IS BETTER THAN YOURS
but really.
most followers of Western religions use it in the wrong way.
Neal: western religions suck jews think there the best christians think tehre the best islam says now ere the best
its so wrong
Me: the point of a religion is, in my opinion, to follow the examples of the figures who started them.
i.e. Jesus, Mohammed, so forth.
if you forget how these people acted and stop emulating their great deeds, you are no longer pious.
but I'm one of very few who thinks that way.
Neal: no not true the point of a religion is to encourage moral actions we shouldnt use any one person as a paradigm because no one is perfect plus that creates another problem because jesus acted differently than mohammed so we should use the princpials behind their actions but not act as them
Me: right, we can't exactly get ourself nailed to a cross or march to Mecca.
Neal: exactly
but ppl belive that we should
because they take religion literally
which is BAD
Me: exactly.
the people who piss me off the most are those who adhere to the letter and not to the spirit.
they're like, "but zomg homosexuals are going to hell!"
and I'm like. . . dude.
Neal: right which is what conservatives in this country do
Me: isn't God supposed to love all of His children?
damn southern baptists.
And then we went back to talking about LD debate. xD I may or may not be going to the Wake Forest tournament down near Duke. I really want to go. Mostly to see Abby. I love that girl. She is my idol. ^_____^
I'm kinda pissy because Boyang doesn't want me teaching novices. He's having Alex and Neal do it instead, because they went to debate camp over the summer. Debate camp rocks, make no mistake. It's great for owning at big tournaments. Well, god damn it, the first tournaments these kids are going to are local tournaments at lower levels, and there will be SUCKY JUDGES. If they don't learn how to cater to sucky judges, they're toast and will never get a) self-confidence in their new trade or b) bids to go to States. Alex and Neal will not teach them this. I rock at this. I learned from the best - Abby. Woo. She is still my idol, even after another paragraph. xD
Muslim extremists have about as much understanding of the Qu'ran as protestants who believe they're supposed to make it up as it feels right for them as they go along have of the Bible. Except without so much of the killing people.
: August 26, 2005 11:43 AM : August 26, 2005 11:44 AM
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